the election cycle is continuous where once it was short. other countries of found ways to restrict fact to a shorter time frame which at least would save some money. >> host: doesn't that open more loopholes? if you restrict the time? wouldn't there be ways around that? >> guest: we are very inventive in this country and no doubt folks around a political process, perhaps the only difference would be we would save a little money and a lot of people are looking at this, we couldn't agree more that that is the root of the problem. the can't change the tax code or free trade or deregulation or the whole issue of debt financing until we figure out a way to get behind the influence of money. >> guest: this is not easy. it may not even be possible if the supreme court has deemed money and exercise of free speech. that really raises the bar on us. it means anything goes from here on out. >> host: a tweet for you gentlemen, how are the people to understand the true amount of what the government spends? where is there accessible, understandable data?